Native English speakers are the world's worst communicators

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  1. Smallworld

    Smallworld Active Member Charter Member Cager

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  2. William King

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    Some Native English speakers are the world's worst communicators

    FTFY.
     
  3. Davita

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    He better not try communicating with an Indonesian via WhatsApp then...
     
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    I reckon the author's got hold of the wrong end of the stick!
     
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    I reckon the author's got hold of the wrong end of the stick!
     
  7. Smallworld

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    Very Interesting.

    I suspect the recipient was Asian?

    Basic rules of communication or even business/engineering in general "If In Doubt Ask" but for some reason Asians cannot ask?

    Just in case?

    [​IMG]

    This I wholeheartedly agree.
     
  9. Bad_azz

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    "Unsure of the word, the recipient found two contradictory meanings in his dictionary. He acted on the wrong one. "

    So why not just sodding ask...? I would say it wasn't the original message that was at fault, it was the dope who made an incorrect assumption.
    It really irks me when people don't ask to clarify something. Not just in English language studies, in anything.
    If you are not clear on a point- ASK, you won't look as stupid asking for advice as you will if you make an assumption & it goes tits up.
    ...


    & now I shall go & have a cup of tea so that satan can come out of hiding. :behindsofa:
     
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    What Vocalneal says! Must have been posting as I was typing.
     
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    Bad-azz. What has landscaping with grass got to do with this?:deadhorse:
     
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    So what was the word? Didn't see it mentioned in the article. Or did Mr Chia make up the whole story to sell his "intercultural training".
     
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    I have to laugh as I am just going through a book of famous quotes with a private student.
    "Tha valley of the shadow of death" came up...
    Him "what does that mean?"
    Me ... ?

    The Spanish student who stayed with us a couple of decades ago- middle of December, in a busy UK town centre: "I'm FRIGID"

    The Japanese girl who stayed with us a few months later, " Does Royal Mail, mean all the letters are for the Queen?"

    My Significant other was under the floor doing some plumbing & we could hear strange noises, the Japanese girl who was staying with us:
    "Oh you have a fairy?" MY Yorks born macho-bloke SO , did not take too kindly to being referred to as a fairy- however I did get a giggle out of it.

    & My hubby after body parts lessons in our early days:
    Me, points to toes: "what are these?"
    Him : "footfingers"
    Me: :doh::dizzy::rofl:
     
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    Sorry I can't fathom any of this.


    This forum is a suppository of information. It might be a mute point but I think Ms. Chia was looking for an escape goat. Well if thinks it is me she has another thing coming. Given free reign I'd look in my chester drawers to find something with which to extract revenge. It's a doggy dog world out there.
     
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    Brill VN,
    The words and phrases that have been adopted/adapted/assimilated in to UK English from maritime roots are almost too numerous to count.
     
  16. Smallworld

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    Interesting ..... from my work experience I was always asking (first month in new working place in UK) and after a while my manager got irritated and simply lost his temper and started to shout at me. This all happened while he was making his own tea so I knew he was not busy.
     
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    Like, “Hello Sailor”
     
  18. Bad_azz

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    Many nautical terms are used in Business English (& everyday language).
    Here are a few (for our non-native speakers)
    Batten down the hatches
    As the crow flies
    Backlash
    Footloose
    Hand over fist
    Learn the ropes
    Lookout
    Nipper
    Overhaul
    Pipe down
    Rummage
    Slush/ Slush fund
    Square meal
    Pull out the stoppers
    Swinging the lead
    Taken aback
    Three sheets to the wind
    Toe the line
    Under the weather
     
  19. Davita

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    Add to B_A's list....Port, Starboard, Head (toilet), Galley, Keel-hauled and Shanghaied are all derived from the navy.
     
  20. nd_eric_77

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    I found myself wondering whether the first half of the article was a frustrating meta-linguistic approach to proving the point of how badly native English speakers communicate.
    "A misunderstood cryptic word caused an unspecifically large loss at a mythical corporation."
    Wow, that brilliantly illustrates the point! #sarcasm
     
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